Part of it is because they don't want to get scammed. In one case, the model is promising, commercial, and then set a high price. (e.g. I imagine a totally different mentality is going on in the Ts room, where top talents probably just like to leave the building because a few individuals like to keep things in check (you know like in the old top down pyramidal structured way). When someone uploads a scanned model for 3D printing and tags it as "low poly", the model will appear even where it shouldn't. Checkmate is the only good thing Turbosquid has left to offer. I agree with Captainmarlowe than one of the most important ideas to develop is more "education" for Sellers about all aspects involved in this business, and some kind of system that favors good and fair business practices and penalizes bad ones. The art is to do it structurally organized and easily navigable and then it is a matter of giving the people the right tools and they will do the rest issue I think. To me this was a sign that people know about CGt and that users have at least two accounts. That is where the true value of 3D is today but unless someone can show the masses that this kind of thing can be done at a reasonable price ,(based on market value), then 3D will continue to be a half dead market until it will die completely because robotics have reached an advanced stage where they will soon be able to replace artists. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. Speaking of it, noting even stops me here from adding in the description of the model something like this,"If you are a maya exeprt and can successful convert this project, then I will completely refund you in exchange for that converted maya file". No frankly, it's a bloody mystery. Ah crap, not sure how that referal spam sneaked into turbosquid link, here is the clean one: https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/cathedral-paris-notre-dame-3d-obj/933856, I think that subsequently only large studios and squidguild members will remain there. just needs more publicity.. us designers need to market the site with our products at the rate one of my designs is going ill have more facebook likes/shares than the website itself has on one design Unlike Turbosquid which has remained practically the same since it was created and that actually has become dodgier over time as they have been adding more and more hoops for artists to jump through just to upload a basic model CGT has been great about constantly listening to it's artists needs and made great improvements! Rigged 3D models are available in Autodesk 3ds Max (.max), Maya (.ma), Softimage (.xsi), Cinema 4D (.c4d) and many other file formats. TS beside ripping off taxes have a terrible support, I just was told in the civilized manner to F OFF, as I complained on an admin who kept my 3D model suspended for over 4 days. (so you basically pay for a fraud protection system for people hoe sell themselves out exclusively). But I will look there only because I know what is cgtrader and how it works. Like time spent on searching models or ability to get profesional support 24/7. You can enter multiple email addresses separated by commas, Thank you for shopping at TurboSquid. Login to PayPal to add your account as a payment method. Work directly with a 3D artist for your project. I like the concept of CGtrader very much, hope to see the duality issues resolved. In fact I hope that once buyers begin to see the difference in quality on this site they will jump ship but the thing that still trips up CGTrader is the consumer confidence. Sometimes you have to support the buyer. They could put down an amount between 1 to 5 bucks as a deposit and after sampling the model as you suggested they could deduct that amount from the final sale. Hopefully that would make squids to react. just share your links (: I like both but prefer cgtrader all day. Here is a quick test that can help understand why there aren't so many buyers. So let's hope that at some point, the designers of the site will establish some filters to guarantee a minimal quality and, why not, a "good practice charter" for the sellers, or that they will explain some sellers that their attitude is not good in the long term for the site credibility. Honestly I feel that it would be better to sell n bit slower that to have your models stolen. Imagine if CGtrader provided a service where they could get photos of the broken mug, then have some artists create a 3D version from the broken pieces and then have it printed for the client and sent to their house or if the client wants they can use their 3D printing company of preference to do it. Delhi Escort CGtrader is just better in all possible ways. Most of the Ts artists also moved their work over here and almost everyone knows that, just not the ones hoe are exclusive, it's not going to take too long now before they systematically start breaking the exclusive contract when they see sales going down every month and things going up over here. Hi John, you made very valid points. I have to agree. Open a Support Ticket, Licensing questions?Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager. Get this item for $ when you bundle it with the items in your cart. No matter what the Wisdoms offer you now, they will make you pay x10 later once they are done with their competitors (again). Ts has always been an overly expensive service and its not that good at all compare to its cost. This way we let buyers know that cgtrader got some interesting stuff. Get this item for $ when you bundle it with the items in your cart. Maybe they should just smack up one big "We're cheaper than TurboSquid" banner and push it into Google Ads? So click on a category. Any more than 500,000 polygons in one scene and that will make opening and closing it a really long process not to mention that if you trying to animate something in the scene you may have to keep hiding things in various layers or create the animation in a separate one. - Are you interested in just some quick cash grabs and extras here and there while you can, or would you like to be able to contribute to a fair market where you can make a living out of your passion? If the buyer decided to buy after inspecting a sample, the seller would deduct the sample price from another 3d model. Login to PayPal to add your account as a payment method. They also have multiple sellers selling the same products so that it is easier for people to avoid people paying for shipping in their country. Based on those traffic stats CGtrader would clearly benefit from more advertisement out there. I think John Hoagland already pointed out very well the most direct benefits of doing business with Cgtrader over Turbosquid. So it is, but it's a matter of time and CGTrader will be able to master these positions. Payout fees are just fractions of percent, not worth to consider. CGt basically needs to be good at one thing, "facilitating a sales platform". FREE 3D MODELS for Blender (And how to use them) - YouTube I'm just an end-user, one of the people you guys sell to, and the site is a large part of the issue, in multiple ways. The duality of 3D printing/CGmodels is a very complex marriage. Also, trying to find an item that I already saw through the search is near impossible. I would like to see similar stats from other sellers, but CGtrader has been the 3D marketplace with the higher increase in sales for us without a doubt. For small buyers this is likely the case, but serious corporate buyers may have other priorities atop of lowest price. rigged People SixPack 003 - Photogrammetry Population Character Rig, max blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, City People x500 Static Poses Lowpoly ArchViz, 20x LOW POLY CASUAL ELEGANT SITTING WOMAN MAN PEOPLE CROWD, Naked Fitness Blonde Woman with Tied Hair, max c4d unitypackage upk max ma c4d max ma fbx max. They provide clients with pretty much everything they could possibly want at reasonable prices and have a 100 percent guarantee return policy on all their items. I think CG Trader should remain working with printing, however, it's main concern should be CG :D, I would opt for a system that integrates different stores each with its own label/trademark placed under one common trademark (for sake of organization and readability), CGtraders main trademark would then function as a placeholder/main hub for many different sub stores. I tested the CGTrader rigged character morphs for Daz3D studio from your commission and it works like a charm! I can't download that lamp and see it's quality myself - so why would I purchase anything from the creator when I don't know if I'll be satisfied? Maybe they would understand that sellers can't be treated as slaves. Ps. As modeller and as salesman i am interested in earn money only. I really think that a "designer good practices charter" or something like that could help. Let me explain - I like the look of the models here, but the site is even designed so end users, like me, can't even download more that 10 "free" items unless they've uploaded models of their own, written tutorials, posted topics to the forum (which is difficult if you're not an actual modeler) and/or jumped through about 1,500 other ridiculous hoops to get enough "reputation" points. The next thing CGT needs to do is get in with Ebay, Amazon, walmart etc places where everyone buys not just 3D enthusiasts and that regular people trust with their money. @IterateCGI These are great ideas and in fact we are currently working on one campaign that will involve the community to help market CGTrader better. I am going to start a list to promote artists who are making great models but just aren't getting the views. It is pretty difficult to find what you want but if you are only looking for free models then CGTrader's search engine is far better than Turbosquid. and it's not a check-out, it's simply a gift. CGTrader remains a young and very responsive team and listening to members - it's a great quality. Fine details have been sculpted on the model down to pores and fine lines on the face and body. It is likely that people will want to try out new things in their stores from time to time. The "crap models", "under-priced models" issue is a very sensitive topic that should be discussed. Turbosquid / CGTrader - Photorealistic Female Rigged It is currently selling on the of TS is much higher than on CGT. stores with its own labels for 3D printing, 3D stock, crowdfunding, game models maybe even concept designs, sound files, storytellers, code for making apps, 3D scripts, etc) Each of this stores would then again have subcategories (e.g. Gumroad is an awesome virtual marketplace where artists can create their own store and sell any type of digital asset, from textures to tutorial series. Important detail : CGTrader allows communication between customers and sellers ! Hello, The same goes for student projects. Turbosquid bites the hands that feed them: Brittney Briere, Sep 18, 09:53 SST: http://content.screencast.com/users/Lenwe/folders/Default/media/d7b76144-43db-4cbe-b27b-8ea42b3a7cb0/TurboSquid_Low_Sales.png Doesn't seem so. What makes Cg-trader better than Turbosquid? Fantasy is a bit better, but sic-fi gets me 10 copyright infringements on the first page alone (star wars characters, mainly). With only a few days on CG trader, i can already see it is miles ahead of turbosquid. I do agree with you regarding the search engine. Which is good, since we are the ones who will bring in the profits. Royalty rate of CGTrader allows the seller to make a model cheaper than on TurboSquid. They then review the model and contact seller to fix it. NoneCg I've read almost all your information regarding the public issues. - It's much easier to upload products here than at TS. [http://www.google.com|google11] Personally I don' t see anything offending on human body, everyone has one but I respect that it could be offending to someone (especially kids) so it should be censured. So i need to try to make money with my models as long as possible, means as long it is not uploaded to anywhere else. the only advantages in cgtrader are the big rates for clients. "This is new era, time of old fashioned corporatism is going to be over. Spider-Man (Rig) for Maya Shaders is a new section that we recently added. Free3d.com7. ", Exactly, no one knows the model better than the one who made this model. On the other hand, reason for refund should be solid. I think this computer graphics industry just needs a well known and established hub specific to our profession, and one that is being run with good core principals like we see it here on CGt. http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/cgtrader.com, https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/exterior/landmark/notre-dame-de-paris-cathedral-61d97afb1b1a62861673c23f15b75c12, https://www.facebook.com/ActiveKetoGummiesAustraliaWebsite. - Crowdfunding to improve the CGtrader presence in the market. Turbosquid is basically a pyramid scheme for the most part unless you are established and have been in the top rank for many years. for someone that is a little more unique. I have to agree with Limonadinis on this without a good search engine function we loose many clients to Turbosquid. It is the best RR in the world ! And between CGTrader and TurbuSquid, I think, let everything will be decided in a reasonable competition. Without checkmate Turbosquid would have gone out of business. Some people mistaken de renders for real items already, can imagine how that would be on Ebay or amazon. I deleted my products here and joined sguild again, no reason for staying here. More specifically, the 3D Model may not be exported or sold. [link="http://www.google.com"]google1[/link] I'd rather look into ways to create my own site, cause it's a bit tedious to sift through neverending site rules from neverending projects. tax on top of a high 60% that TS keeps. But i think CGT nows that pretty well, that's why they decided to bring changes in royalty policy and hopefully they will steer additional cash flow towards making this stock market more attractive to the buyers. Payment Method Even when Ts would sell more models it does not mean they serve you well, because it is not. There are very few modelers out there who can actually support themselves financially doing this and whenever one of us sells anything it is a little like winning the lottery. I agree that these two parts - CG and 3D printing should be split at least externally/ visually. So in this case you could say we are the asses and there's lots of us so we form a huge ass and CGt can place many chairs for us to sit on ;-) We want to improve the site not make it worse :). Maybe there is something behind the scenes what you can't know or can't tell? Is Sketchfab better than Turbosquid and CGTrader for selling 3D - Quora The paypal commission is paid 2 times - 1 when the model is bought, 2 times - when money is paid to the seller. I'm a bit afraid there's always going to be issues that leaves this community divided, leaving CGpeople with a platform not able to live up to its full potential and leaving 3D print people with a platform not living up to its full potential either. If you are doing really bad with sales they let you do whatever you want but if you are doing well they step in and make things difficult. Thank you. I'm probably leaving this site for good, but it won't be because of you guys - it's because of the site itself. TurboSquid goes down, It becomes miserable the users are ,,working from behind,, ! However, fear of losing sales kept me both on Ts and CGt for long time (not liked it). CGT needs to get on Amazon a.s.a.p or partner with all the top leading commercial comps in order to make 3D more interesting to more buyers. First of all make great and spectacular models for it and promote it on forums, facebook, linkedin groups and forums. Ts would probably just pull up the royalty's and change policy if it stats feeling uncomfortable, but it would not change what is in memory. CG Trader. still turbosquid has the most paying clients. I'm just dreading that sober moment when TS offers to buy CGT to kill off the competition. Regards, Next we would have the sales/customers feedback factor coming in to sort out the stores ranking. If they want free models then they can go elsewhere!!! Absurd as it may sound, a lot of customers doesn't even make a simple "XXXX 3D model" search and go to Turbosquid just because that's a name they heard before. We can't even communicate on Ts, and that in an age of supper connectivity, it's just the world on his head. That is why I like to use Apple as the example of preference. I'm not a modeler, I come here to buy models and this site is surprisingly obtuse when it comes to layout. (Edge loops, quad poly, simple overall structure) Full Rigged with over 30 facial blendshapes and 20+ skin morph targets in order to produce better rig quality and remove some joints issues such as overlaped knees, stretched hips, etc. When I started on cgtrader I had more sales than on TS. Cgtrader have more favorable royalty rates, compared to TurboSquid. Most people don't care a bit about all this. It is pretty difficult to find what you want but if you are only looking for free models then CGTrader's search engine is far better than Turbosquid. flob3d: I don't know if Jonathan invented the CheckMate, but what I can say is that Jonathan is a good professional and he often helped me a lot, so I have no complaints to make. "TurboSquid Support, Jun 20, 08:14 SST: Beautifully put IterateCGI, let's hope it is signal for more than just Tubro's downfall, but hopefully the downfall of treating 3D creators like shit. with the recent requirements to upload a 3D product on TS, CGT became my number one no doubt, i'm not gonna wast half my life rendering turntables that wouldn't make much of a difference when every seller is doing the same thing. Think about the kind of treatment you can expect from these soulless corporate hacks once they can play their monopoly game again. One of the biggest problems in this country is that the games and film studios are becoming a bit of a joke and not getting the funding they used to have. We are writing to inform you that we are taking your content offline for 60 days as you have continued to change your prices to be higher on TurboSquid. Everything we do is going on between people, we are all in this together, none of us is separate now matter how hard we would like to think so. If you have any questions about these items before you purchase, please contact us at https://support.turbosquid.com/ But now, I'm exploring a new platform which is Sketchfab. Hey there, You have insufficient credit to complete your purchase. Buyers tend to look for things based on the category and budget and like to be able to put two products side by side to compare them and get a better understanding of why one is better than the other or which product is more suitable for them as an individual. You must create a huge hype and create things that are unique and that connect with people. When pressed, Turbosquid could give no clearer specification than "it is too similar". I hope someone someday will take the concept behind old cgtrader Hi guys, thanks so much for your very valuable comments, they are much appreciated and we are very happy to work with you in order to make CGTrader the best place for 3D designers! I'm not a modeler, I come here to buy models and this site is surprisingly obtuse when it comes to layout. If it is true that other sites are taking a higher margin and a larger slice of profit share, they have some kind of capital to work magic with, both with artists who are accepting less and buyers who are paying more. I started uploading some of my items to cg trader to see if it generated any income but as I have 70+ items and 0 sales I have decided to stop. - Do you think that a company like Turbosquid, managed by/for corporate funding with clear monopolistic intentions is more likely to improve your situation as a content creator in the future? It would be mess. Dear adentonclark, This industry really needs a giant hub were al CGpeople (weather young and inexperienced ore diehard veterans) can communicate, learn, trade, fundraise and collaborate. The reason the model is sold at low price .some models have so many other sellers which can lose models value . We will only contact you if there's a problem with an order. Regarding the support case, perhaps you could share the exact details on the case by a message or email to me (dalia@cgtrader.com) - we would like to look more into it and ensure that no cases like that are unsolved. I think that the ones that do come here to buy CG models might not return if they get fed up while searching for the right one. On the contrary, comparing 2013 to 2014 for the exact same period (January to August) our sales INCREASED in a 45%. . https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/industrial/other/shipping-container--4. So my own experience on sales is of little value. This would allow genuine potential buyers to check the quality of models. Change Method. Add a Payment Method, Add a Payment There is other sellers that don't have any problem doing the same: They customize those figures anyway you want. cgtrader is far better than turbosquid in my opinion coz cgtrader offer 80% royalti payment and turbo only give you 40% royalti payment which is sad. Being an artist himself makes a huge difference in this regard. If CGT wants to play big and attract high quality traffic and designers/buyers, it has to invite the sellers to opt for a more mature approach in my humble opinion. Noise Treshold: That definitely wasn't me hoe said that turbo. Dude, I have from 500$ a month at SGtride and i don't feed fat Turbosquid bastards. Agree with every word above. How Can we get 94% of Royalty?? I tested it with golden palace, clothing and various hair, other textures, they all worked fine August 22, 2022 at 6:03 am #1859211 Sabrina Participant Rank: @Goblyn Glad you enjoy it! For myself, long live CGTrader and may they keep their principles as they grow. As long as CGtrader and Marius keep leading the inclusive marketplaces with respect for the Artists and their own branding, we at NoneCG will continue to support CGtrader and Marius indefinitely, no extra shiny coins needed for us. I know I personally would be Heh.. that's another topic but my top selling model is nude. In other countries like China film production is far better funded so perhaps CGTrader could try opening it's doors to Hong Kong film studios etc Japan is also far better funded and in fact Turbosquid is also selling models on the Japanese market. what you say doesn't make any sense because CGTrader has a 100 percent guarantee return policy on all models as far as I know. CGTrader will have to do so at some point, or people in search of quality models will simply avoid it. With the support of a strong community we can get this thing going, don't worry about that. Yes CGtrader is great! A good ref point is that your average laptop with Dual Pentium 2 gigahertz processor 8 GB of ram will start having issues when running over 200,000 polygons. The first thing you see is almost only 3D printing assets. I will search on TS and when found right model I will maybe look at cgtrader if there is that same model for cheaper. Although I agree the presentation of CGtraders home page is heavily focused at 3D printing, NoneCG did not suffer ANY drop in sales. Rigged 3D Models | CGTrader 3D Models Buy or download free Rigged 3D Models Rigged 3D models are your best choice when you need a character or object to perform unique movements. Most small or midsized companies I worked with, did their best to cap their scene polygons at no more 500,000 all models included. And even if you sell the same models on other side you can advertise them as being the cheapest here. The entire way of setting up your model seems backwards and chaotic. It's all fine and CGT rocks the socks off the competition. So part of the problem would probably be solved if a buyer would indeed get reputation points for buying models and gain more access in the process. Thanks once again! On the other side, CGtrader empowers the real content creators, giving them all kind of freedom regarding their products and image, and encouraging communication between customers and content creators. TS removes this rating. Turbosquid has a horrendous up-loader Those are very interesting ideas to develop for the future. 3. Some may look great for close ups but in a large environment scene or house setting when you have a lot of models to let's say show off the interior design of a model home you need to be very careful on poly count. All that time that we didn't have to spent dealing with Turbosquid bad support went to more time for artistic work. I understand CGtrader's management don't want to bet on one horse but it probable lives the two horses crippled in this case. Build your own Brand with your own criteria and goals. The claim Turbosquid made was that it infringed on Games Workshop IPs. You just have to check the Sellers forum at Turbosquid to see plenty of complaints about all sorts of abusive policies. (I'm aware this involves many aspects) If a company like Disney or NASA buys a model at TS, they advertise it as "Turbosquid customers buying Turbosquid models". Ebay it's ALL about direct seller/customer relationship. A rig is like a skeleton of a 3D model, which lets you move and pose it with little effort. Say you happen to be a great render and lighting specialist but not so well a modeler, you see this nice models that have potential but the presentation is very bad (from good modeler with no render skills). Yes. But if you are on Turbosquid as an exclusive sale (models will be sold only on the website TurboSquid), Cgtrader can lose and this position, in favor of TS the success of CGTrader (and other sites as well) contributed to that. Although in the beginning that meant the loss of a big part of income (being Turbosquid the biggest 3D content reseller), after just a few adjustment months from that specific point our sales in ALL the other marketplaces started to grow up to a point where we don't miss any income from the missing Turbosquid sales anymore, while 90% of "customer problems" suddenly disappeared. And in terms of openness and freedom CGTrader is the first. They did so by making products that looked so much cooler than PCs and people were fooled and then eventually they made so much money that then they kept putting back into the product and eventually came out with the Ipad which even all Apple haters love. If CGT would manage to draw more buyers from TS then even more sellers would migrate here. I think we just need so some massive killer models of epic proportions that the 3D modeling community cant ignore. See ourPrivacy Policyfor more information. I was victim of that there a few months ago, I had a bad rating when the model have never had a problem during many years. He earns trust in this way and we know everything stands or falls with the coming and going of trust. Think about your future: - An improvement in search results based on manual rating from sellers and/or CGtrader staff. I also think, as iterateCGI, the market control based on exclusivity will soon disappear. female rigged 3d model - TurboSquid Difference in quality of search results is shockingly vast in favor of TS. Highend 3D - Character Rigs We all agree that CGT is the better site and needs to win the fight but we all need to reach out to the really influential people and make sure they start promoting the site or we won't win. The advance search option should obviously only be available for paid models so to avoid people only free loading and just finding all the free models. If anyone has been to New York they will have noticed that Fao Swartz a toy store in the center of Manhattan is creating 3D printable action figures. You have to realize that TS is recognized by autodesk and even had a direct tab link to their site in max itself. TurboSquid Member Services, I'm a first time seller (+-2 Months). So, CGT is the best guys ! Here only I have doubts it would be fair to do do is a difference of 20..25% in the price of its models, which are intended for sale in the CGT and TS? 3D Modeling Jobs | CGTrader personally CGTrader is the second site where I realize more sales, I think we should avoid generalizing his own experience. [google][http://www.google.com|google4 ] For some people with experience that did the math taking all factors in count (not talking about just NoneCG, of course) it was crystal clear since many years ago. Don't know how many even bother to ask, and on Ts no one can ask anything. You can enter multiple email addresses separated by commas, Thank you for shopping at TurboSquid.
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